I obtained your email after reviewing the Cancertutor.com’s Articles about Heart Disease and Linus Pauling which lead me to the VitaminCFoundation.org web page.
I apologize for this long email, but I wanted to try to explain what steps I took so you would better understand my inquiry.
I THINK I may be experiencing a reaction to the Cardio-C which I ordered and received on Saturday, June 15, 2013, and I’m not sure how to relieve this feeling or if my reactions are serious.
Let me give you some history and then ask if you know of anyone with the same reaction as I describe.
I’m female, 49yrs old. Never had any ‘history’of heart issues other than the ‘irregular’ beating from time to time. I exercise 4-6/days a week and before Dec. last year, used to jog twice a week for up to 4 miles each. I’m
6ft tall, 190lbs and not overweight or anything. No high blood pressure or anything else.
For the past 2 years (2011-2013), I have been taking powered L-Lysine(by http://www.Bronsonvitamins.com) once a day(up to 6,000*mg*) on an empty stomach to help lessen the monthly HSV2(Genital Herpes) outbreaks I was having over the years. I was not using Vitamin C at that time. Only this year, I'd take 1,000-3,000*mg* Vit C in the form of the Emergen-C type...but only once a week or so and even then, not every week.
In June '13, I was told about Linus Pauling/cancertutor and high dosage Vitamin C for heart disease. I have incidences of ‘hard-pounding’ heart beats, sounding so loud, I can hear them in my left ear when lying down;
sometimes seeming to ‘skip-a-beat’ or beat fast then normal again. I’ve been to Cardio Doc’s; been tested(EKGs/Stress tests), always being told that I’m fine, nothing wrong with heart. I know better. Nonetheless, my ‘symptoms’ persist.
Ordered the Cardio-C(2 jars) and receiving it Sat, June 15th started my first doses. I decided to stop my normal single Lysine powered 6,000mg doses and *just do* the Cardio-C since it had Lysine in it.
The goal was to do the Cardio-C to try to relieve the irregular heartbeats I had been having almost 2/week …so I started with taking the Cardio-C-- * TWO* scoops *3 times a day* with food.
(This being 5,000*mg* Vit C; 5,000*mg* lysine; 1,000*mg* Proline …..ALL taken 3 times a day)
I did this for 10 days to June 24th . At that time, I started to notice that my gut/mid-section seemed ‘inflated’ almost like I was pregnant and my back from my shoulder blades to just at my lower back was very sore, stiff,
feeling swollen FROM THE INSIDE…but not looking that way at all, just feeling really ‘funny/different’. Also I noticed at this 9-10 day mark that when I’d eat something very small, I’d feel like my insides were being
inflated with a balloon. This scared me, since I’ve never had such discomfort from taking a new ‘supplement’. So I reduced the does on the 25th(Day 11) to 1 scoop twice that day. BUT I still felt the swollen feeling after
taking the product and after eating. By June 26th (Day 12), I decided to STOP all doses until I could ask you about this. I did not take any of the Cardo-C or any other supplement since June 26th. By Sunday, June 29th, my front mid section was not as swollen and did not feel as sore..but the area around my back-just below my shoulder-blades and toward my sides still felt stiff or numb almost. It’s not painful, just a nagging tightness/soreness when I inhale deeply or reposition my body in bed or sitting in a chair.
I thought it may have come from the excessively high dose of Lysine I was taking (15,000*mg)* along with the 3,000*mg* Proline which I’d never taken before.
Still it is July 1st and I have not used the Cardio-C since June 25( 6 days) and my back is still tight/sore. My front area is still stiff/sore just over my ribs and along the under-side of my breast area toward the
center of my chest.
So, after all this history, may I ask:
1)Have you heard of anyone having this type of reaction?
2) I’m *sure* I was taking too much, but do you know if the kidneys/spleen/liver can be damaged from such high doses of Lysine* OR *Proline over an 11 day period?
3) I don’t’ know if I was to acidic before I started the CardioC or if that matters. I’m not sure how to tell if your body is acidic or not.
4) I’m thinking that when my back heals, I will try the Vit C (alone) and take the Lysine separate from it and remain at 6,000*mg* like I was doing before. Just increasing the Vit C to 10,000*mg* or so. I’m just not sure
if I should try to find powdered Proline somewhere…..
*Your thoughts* on suppliers of single does Proline and/or Lysine?
Thank you very much for your time and your input on this matter.
Yes, 5000 to 6000 mg of lysine daily is usually the maximum we would recommend, although I personally know of people who have taken a lot more without any issues. However, your 15,000 is probably the highest intake that has been reported to us. (2500 mg lysine for 30 days cleared my uncles 50-70% carotid blockage.)
Linus Pauling recommended taking vitamin C every day - and not skipping a single day.
Irregular heartbeats are often related to the manganese/magnesium ratio. If you add up the manganese in all your supplements, it should not be over 2 mg - at 20 mg it will cause an irregular heartbeat. Can take 60 days to clear (detox) after you reduce. Adding more magnesium may help (as they both compete in the heart.)